subaobao_ok 发表于 2025-4-12 07:53
我不下这个结论，我只说我遇到的现象。结论最好是多方多人多版本验证后再说。 ...
从你描述的内容来看，很明显就是调用系统的 format.com 进行操作的了。
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 08:45
补充72楼测试，“启用或关闭windows功能”对话框方式添加安装framework3.5返回0x80004005错误。
总结一句 ...
现在还能找到多少程序需要 .net3.5 的支持了？
我的 ReFS Windows，就从未添加这个 .net3.5 了，还不是一直正常使用中么？
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-12 08:56
现在还能找到多少程序需要 .net3.5 的支持了？
我的 ReFS Windows，就从未添加这个 .net3.5 了，还不是 ...
这是抛不抛弃依赖frramework3.5的旧版软件或怀旧游戏的问题，你去劝一下那些怀旧党吧——其实不碰refs就完事。
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 09:03
这是抛不抛弃依赖frramework3.5的旧版软件或怀旧游戏的问题，你去劝一下那些怀旧党吧——其实不碰refs就 ...
即使要使用怀旧软件、玩怀旧游戏，可以在 VM 中安装 WinXP/Win7 吧。
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-12 09:05
即使要使用怀旧软件、玩怀旧游戏，可以在 VM 中安装 WinXP/Win7 吧。
都怀旧了，那我不碰refs不就行了吗，vmware只是临时测试而已，不适合长期日常使用的。还有，你品味一下80楼，你猜除了framework3.5的问题，refs还有没有其他添加不了XX功能的幺蛾子？
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 09:11
都怀旧了，那我不碰refs不就行了吗，vmware只是临时测试而已，不适合长期日常使用的。还有，你品味一下80 ...
目前知道的是，ReFS Windows 无法顺利添加可选组件，无法顺利更新补丁。
ReFS Windows 可以顺利进行大版本升级了。
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-12 09:20
目前知道的是，ReFS Windows 无法顺利添加可选组件，无法顺利更新补丁。
ReFS Windows 可以顺利进行大版 ...
我也是无聊在vmware测试而已，日常办公还是1803版win10呢。
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 09:23
我也是无聊在vmware测试而已，日常办公还是1803版win10呢。
物理主机进行测试，才能测试出真实的运行情况了。
VM 中测试没有什么问题，不表示物理主机就一定没有问题了啊。
我的电脑全盘 ReFS 分区，系统就一个 27823 了。
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-12 09:25
物理主机进行测试，才能测试出真实的运行情况了。
VM 中测试没有什么问题，不表示物理主机就一定没有问题 ...
没条件，我也是无聊测试而已。
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 09:41
没条件，我也是无聊测试而已。
UEFI + GPT，可以很方便的安装多 Windows 系统了。
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-12 09:46
UEFI + GPT，可以很方便的安装多 Windows 系统了。
我只是工作空闲测试而已，一有活干就把vmware关了就完事了。
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-12 09:20
目前知道的是，ReFS Windows 无法顺利添加可选组件，无法顺利更新补丁。
ReFS Windows 可以顺利进行大版 ...
259xx+是没有这些问题的。另外今年沙盒问题似乎也有改进。
29107 发表于 2025-4-12 16:54
259xx+是没有这些问题的。另外今年沙盒问题似乎也有改进。
27788都没事，我是闲的没事一有新版就新装一次从27802开始出问题的。
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 17:11
27788都没事，我是闲的没事一有新版就新装一次从27802开始出问题的。
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29107 发表于 2025-4-12 20:24
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2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM PID=8272 TID=8292 Scratch directory set to 'C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\'. - CDISMManager::put_ScratchDir
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM PID=8272 TID=8292 DismCore.dll version: 10.0.27823.1000 - CDISMManager::FinalConstruct
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM Initialized Panther logging at C:\windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM PID=8272 TID=8292 Successfully loaded the ImageSession at "C:\Windows\System32\Dism" - CDISMManager::LoadLocalImageSession
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM Initialized Panther logging at C:\windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Provider Store: PID=8272 TID=8292 Found and Initialized the DISM Logger. - CDISMProviderStore::Internal_InitializeLogger
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM Initialized Panther logging at C:\windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Successfully created the local image session and provider store. - CDISMManager::CreateLocalImageSession
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE:
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: <----- Starting Dism.exe session ----->
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE:
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Host machine information: OS Version=10.0.27823, Running architecture=amd64, Number of processors=2
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Instance information: Parent process=C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe, Parent process PID=7800
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Dism.exe version: 10.0.27823.1000
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Executing command line: DISM/Online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:NetFx3 /all /Source:d:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 physical location path: C:\ - CDISMManager::CreateImageSession
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Event name for current DISM session is Global\{F57A1FD7-1454-4BA6-AFBC-D2AA1FCC9C5D} - CDISMManager::CheckSessionAndLock
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Create session event 0x000000000000027C for current DISM session and event name is Global\{F57A1FD7-1454-4BA6-AFBC-D2AA1FCC9C5D}- CDISMManager::CheckSessionAndLock
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Copying DISM from "C:\windows\System32\Dism" - CDISMManager::CreateImageSessionFromLocation
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 No Sandbox was created, DISM running in-place. - CDISMManager::CreateImageSessionFromLocation
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DismHostLib: PID=8272 TID=8292 Attempting to use runtime-registered DISM host per process configuration - DismCreateObjectInHostFromCLSID
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Successfully loaded the ImageSession at "C:\windows\System32\Dism" - CDISMManager::LoadRemoteImageSession
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Image Session: PID=8968 TID=3676 Instantiating the Provider Store. - CDISMImageSession::get_ProviderStore
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM OS Provider: PID=8968 TID=3676 Defaulting SystemPath to C:\ - CDISMOSServiceManager::Final_OnConnect
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM OS Provider: PID=8968 TID=3676 Defaulting Windows folder to C:\Windows - CDISMOSServiceManager::Final_OnConnect
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Provider Store: PID=8968 TID=3676 Attempting to initialize the logger from the Image Session. - CDISMProviderStore::Final_OnConnect
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM Initialized Panther logging at C:\windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Provider Store: PID=8968 TID=3676 Found and Initialized the DISM Logger. - CDISMProviderStore::Internal_InitializeLogger
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM Initialized Panther logging at C:\windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM Initialized Panther logging at C:\windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Image session successfully loaded from location: C:\windows\System32\Dism - CDISMManager::CreateImageSession
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Target image information: OS Version=10.0.27823.1000, Image architecture=amd64
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Image session version: 10.0.27823.1000
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Transmog Provider: PID=8968 TID=2936 Current image session is - CTransmogManager::GetMode
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Transmog Provider: PID=8968 TID=2936 Audit Mode: - CTransmogManager::Initialize
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Transmog Provider: PID=8968 TID=2936 GetProductType: ProductType = - CTransmogManager::GetProductType
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Transmog Provider: PID=8968 TID=2936 Product Type: - CTransmogManager::Initialize
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Transmog Provider: PID=8968 TID=2936 Product Type ServerNT : - CTransmogManager::Initialize
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM OS Provider: PID=8968 TID=2936 Determined System directory to be C:\Windows\System32 - CDISMOSServiceManager::get_SystemDirectory
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info CSI 00000001 Shim considered '\??\C:\windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-servicingstack_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.27823.1000_none_d739733b8942af6c\wcp.dll' : got STATUS_SUCCESS
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Driver Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Further logs for driver related operations can be found in the target operating system at %WINDIR%\inf\setupapi.offline.log - CDriverManager::Initialize
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Finished initializing the CbsConUI Handler. - CCbsConUIHandler::Initialize
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 CBS is being initialized for online use. More information about CBS actions can be located at: %windir%\logs\CBS\CBS.log - CDISMPackageManager::Initialize
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Loaded servicing stack for online use. - CDISMPackageManager::CreateCbsSession
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info CSI 00000001 Shim considered '\??\C:\windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-servicingstack_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.27823.1000_none_d739733b8942af6c\wcp.dll' : got STATUS_SUCCESS
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Processing the top level command token(enable-feature). - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::Private_ValidateCmdLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Attempting to route to appropriate command handler. - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::ExecuteCmdLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Routing the command... - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::ExecuteCmdLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Encountered the option "featurename" with value "NetFx3" - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::Private_GetPackagesFromCommandLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Encountered an unknown option "featurename" with value "NetFx3" - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::Private_GetPackagesFromCommandLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Encountered the option "source" with value "d:\sources\sxs" - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::Private_GetPackagesFromCommandLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Encountered an unknown option "source" with value "d:\sources\sxs" - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::Private_GetPackagesFromCommandLine
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Initiating Changes on Package with values: 5, 7 - CDISMPackage::Internal_ChangePackageState
2025-04-14 10:45:02, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 CBS session options=0x20100! - CDISMPackageManager::Internal_Finalize
2025-04-14 10:46:04, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2600Error in operation: (null) (CBS HRESULT=0x80004005) - CCbsConUIHandler::Error
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Error DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Failed finalizing changes. - CDISMPackageManager::Internal_Finalize(hr:0x80004005)
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Error DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Failed processing package changes with session options - CDISMPackageManager::Internal_ProcessChangesWithOptions(hr:0x80004005)
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Error DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Failed ProcessChanges. - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::Private_ProcessFeatureChange(hr:0x80004005)
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Error DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Failed while processing command enable-feature. - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::ExecuteCmdLine(hr:0x80004005)
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2936 Further logs for online package and feature related operations can be found at %WINDIR%\logs\CBS\cbs.log - CPackageManagerCLIHandler::ExecuteCmdLine
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Error DISM DISM.EXE: DISM Package Manager processed the command line but failed. HRESULT=80004005
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM Package Manager: PID=8968 TID=2600 Finalizing CBS core. - CDISMPackageManager::Finalize
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM Manager: PID=8272 TID=8292 Closing session event handle 0x000000000000027C - CDISMManager::CleanupImageSessionEntry
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM.EXE: Image session has been closed. Reboot required=no.
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM.EXE:
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM.EXE: <----- Ending Dism.exe session ----->
2025-04-14 10:46:05, Info DISM DISM.EXE:
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-11 15:54
失败，脚本设置如下：
有新发现，待编辑。
本帖最后由 chaojie0406 于 2025-4-15 11:48 编辑
subaobao_ok 发表于 2025-4-11 11:29
https://uup.rg-adguard.net/index.php 从这里压制的ISO，集成了.net 3.5 也可以安装到ReFS上。
有条件的 ...
官方集成3月补丁的26100版本的windows11、官方集成3月补丁的26100版本的windowsserver2025、uup集成27823的windows11各测试了一遍，都是“format c: /fs:refs”，后释放映像，再“bcdboot c:\windows /l zh-cn”，重启之前马上最后一步“dism /image:c: /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:NetFx3 /all /Source:d:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess”。结果如下：
官方集成3月补丁的26100版本的windows11、官方集成3月补丁的26100版本的windowsserver2025成功过度到windows安装完毕，framework3.5成功安装。uup集成27823的windows11显示64楼截图错误，windows安装失败。
本帖最后由 houyantao 于 2025-4-15 10:48 编辑
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-12 09:23
我也是无聊在vmware测试而已，日常办公还是1803版win10呢。
说到VMware，我的办公电脑使用了微软的存储空间+ReFS和NTFS都有，ReFS分区里VM启动不起虚拟机，但NTFS分区就可以。也许是存储空间+ReFS的问题，也许是ReFS自身的问题。但无论如何存储空间+NTFS是肯定没问题。
所以没事咱不给自己找麻烦，与其去争论，还不如直接选一个肯定不出问题。去研究这些也不能增进真正有用的技术水平，还不如玩玩游戏听听歌{:5_262:}。
chaojie0406 发表于 2025-4-15 10:02
有新发现，待编辑。
找到 ReFS Windows 安装失败的根本原因了么？
rubycon 发表于 2025-4-15 11:08
找到 ReFS Windows 安装失败的根本原因了么？
看97楼。